Tiled Forums Are Not Really Tiled

All should remember that - though these forums use the word "tiled" - they are not in any way, shape, or form the same as a tiled lodge. With that said, all are advised to be very careful when it comes to discussing ritual or the internal business of one's lodge or Grand Lodge.

joshuhwha wrote: so.. whats the point? and that sure does arise alot of thoughts in my head about that spot- hmmm...... thats not good.

I will point out, Joshua, you could have someone show up in your Lodge too, who is not actually a Mason, but faked everyone out enough to gain entrance.

If they aren't tiled then wouldn't it be a good idea to remove the word tile so that there is no confusion?

They are Tyled in the sense that one has to request access and prove himself to be a Master Mason to an Admin or Mod.    .... Other than that the "Tyled" forums are private and for the discussion of masonic topics normally done in private between Master Masons.

Grips, Words and Signs is what they consider "Secret" here in mi. But i tend to be very discreet about mostly everything else as well. I'll discuss bits and pieces but vaguely. Even less that what is given to new Brother to share with their Family here. The GL has a program that most Lodges have implemented called "Share the Secret", where the newly Initiated, Passed and Raised Brother is given booklets to share with his Family that basically says what happened to Him and what it meant. Was cool when i went thru, but i dont Know if i like it now very much.

Edited by MasterHangman33 - March/26/2010 at 9:26am

kamatu wrote: Hmmm, the problem I see is that I simply filled out a standard registration form for this forum software, got an email, clicked a link and I have access.  So, I could be a profane for all everyone here knows.

kamatu wrote: Hmmm, the problem I see is that I simply filled out a standard registration form for this forum software, got an email, clicked a link and I have access.  So, I could be a profane for all everyone here knows.

Edited by joelpetes_jm - May/18/2010 at 8:54am

Greeting Brothers

Seems to me that the profane say that to the Tyler, when they try to enter a Lodge also.

 

 

 

Small World, eh?

I read everybody's Post's and replies and some are quite funny, what is the job of the tyler.... how does he do his job.... Gents that is what i see happening, keep up the good work Palmetto!

simply put if you gonna treat it like a lodgethen do so..
"The first and constant care of Masons when convened?"
Will there be a understanding that there is no universal grand lodge over all. One jurisdiction may not be similar to another even in there own state, county, or city.

so how do i gain access to this "tyled" forum?

daves wrote: 7 precepts wrote: so how do i gain access to this "tyled" forum? Ask

Better Yet,   .... You MUST  PM a Mod or Admin and ASK!   ... That is so stated in the sticky.
... 2B1ASK ....

The tyled forums are not visible to the public.  You have to prove yourself to be a regular master mason to gain access.  This is the public forum you have access to which is open to mason and non-mason alike.

Edited by 150man - June/15/2010 at 11:15am

I will be interested (when the time comes) to see how I am tried and tested by the Tyler here. I have found from another Masonic Forum online that the methods of testing in the North American constitutions are very different from ours in Grand Lodge of Scotland. I was once given a series of questions that frankly I had some difficulty answering due to differences in ritual and in how questions may be asked or phrased.  

if that be the case somebody in the wrong position

Please let me know if any of the following statements are incorrect:

1. In order to gain access to the "Tiled" Forums, a Forum member must stand an examination to prove that he is a Mason (EA, FC, or MM) in good standing.
2. In order to pass the examination and prove himself, he and the Admin/Mod administering the examination must exchange Masonic information that would include the modes of recognition.
3. The modes of recognition are part of the body of Masonic information that is considered secret.
4. The possibility does exist that a hacker could obtain access to all areas or the Forum including the "Tiled" Forum and the Private Messages of all Forum Members.
5. If such unauthorized access to the Forum did take place I would have violated my EA Obligation. 
   

That is a problem with electronic communications. There is nothing in this forum that is secure. Packets are unencrypted and can be "captured" at any place along the lines from your computer to the server. A man in the middle attack would open up everything you send on the internet to someone with the knowledge to do it. These forums do not use encryption or a secure tunnel for communications. Always assume that anything you type can be viewed by a profane. Even if it were secure, there are some in the tyled area that your GL might not recognize. In my case, the GL of NC does recognize PHA for instance. However, they only recognize the mwphglnc as regular. They do not recognize PHA in other states as yet. It is that way in many states. That means that we can not carry on masonic communications with PHA members in other states. That makes the tyled section less tyled even.

The private messages can not be accessed by an unauthorized person. The only one accessing them is the owner of that mail-box.

Of course it can be hacked... the same way your personal e-mail can be hacked, the e-mail of the secretary of the lodge, the Grand Secretary... the same way someone can steal your mail from your mailbox. 

masonic.truths wrote: canuck wrote: The private messages can not be accessed by an unauthorized person. The only one accessing them is the owner of that mail-box. So you are saying that the Forum can not be hacked.

In one of your above post you referenced the OBs'   the OBs are about "willfully & knowingly" relieving Masonic secretes; or doing so without due regard and thus carelessly reveling the secrets to those not entitled to receive them.   .... Yes these forums could be hacked ( but that wouldn't last for long); but this is no less than your Lodge being bugged or someone turning on their CELL PHONE during ritual.      .... These are not you fault and not a violation of your OBs.

It is not intended to hold "Tyled Lodge" meetings in the forums. ... But what the Tyled sections are to provide private area for discussions; and to assure the Members those with access (Quarrymen) have been have been Tried (by admins or Mods) and found to be Master Masons.   .... It is up to you, and your OBs, as to how open your discussions are.   ... Not everyone is comfortable with everything that maybe discussed.

Next, not everyone with Quarryman status is recognized by each other's GLs.   This is why Membership is restricted to recognizes Lodge/GLs of the US, the UGLE and PHA.    So it is up to you to resolve your part of the OB about "holding Masonic communication" with Clandestine, or suspended Masons, "I Knowing them to be such".       (Many GLs are at 'don't ask; and don't tell' ... in regards to part of this... MS & PHA relations)

Next, being tried in PMs:   ... None of my questions when correctly answered will cause a Mason to violate his OBs.   ... Now you have to realize the same as when visiting a Lodge for the first time; you are the one at the Door asking to enter;  They (Tyler, SD, WM, Lodge) have the right to Try you and are required  to find you worthy before allowing you to enter.    

... The same with these forums, we don't invite you to join the Tyled forums.  YOU have to PM an Admin or Mod and request access.     .... Some say to me (admin) "how do I know you are a Master Mason?"    ... The answer: You should have already determined that before asking for "Tyled access". The same as you would before visiting a new Lodge. ....  You can be assured the Admins & Mods are, and know what they are doing.   I have stated before, I can vouch for every Quarryman on the Forums; either I, another Admin or Mod has made the proper inquires.




Edited by edwmax - April/21/2011 at 8:04pm

It really all boils down to this, the Tiled Forms are not a requirement for users of this group.  If you have an issue with the method used to gain access you can either visit an Admin's /Mod's lodge and personally sit with them or just leave it alone altogether.

I am simply trying to make sure I understand the process, so I will make another attempt to gain the information that I seek.

1. I have been informed by one source that he was not required to provide any "secret" information in order to gain access.
2. An examination to gain access to a Tiled Lodge would require the exchange of the Modes of Recognition, which are "secret".
3. So, does an examination by an Admin/Mod to gain access to the "Tiled" Forums require the exchange of the Modes of Recognition?
   

No problem here, just trying to get a straight answer in order to make a decision.  Is there a problem with that?