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    Posted: January/04/2012 at 5:04pm
During the Masonic Election process... Is there a qourum mandated on how may members(Master Masons) should be present in order to hold elections... ie... Should there be 7 in order to hold the elections. Would an election be considered illegal if you have less than the required number..
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Originally posted by jonb jonb wrote:

During the Masonic Election process... Is there a qourum mandated on how may members(Master Masons) should be present in order to hold elections... ie... Should there be 7 in order to hold the elections. Would an election be considered illegal if you have less than the required number..


I am gonna have to say that is based on the rules and regs of your Grand Lodge..... fortunately we have some well informed Brothers on here from the great state of Florida that just may be able to help you on this...
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As far as I can tell, no. If you have enough to open a lodge then you have enough to vote . . . again as far as I can tell. The members do have to have notice(30 days I believe) of the vote.

Might I ask why you asked?
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Maybe CoachN or Taz can shed some more light in the matter.
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A legal quorum as defined by the Masonic Law book of your state is all that is required.  In Michigan, that number is 5 with the WM or a Warden as one of the 5.
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Moved it to the masonic discussion board.

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As far as?
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LOL. Exchanging pleasantries brother.
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I've never heard that a certain number of MM's to are needed to have a legal vote.  But common sense tells me that you'd at least need enough to open the Lodge...but that's just a guess on my part.  Good question though!
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I'd say if you are having an issue with attendance on a voting night you have a serious problem. I've always heard how people you never see the entire year show up and I can say that this was certainly true at my lodge this year.

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LOL. I feel that.

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I'm fairly certain that if there iks to be a ballot in our Lodges, a notice of motion has to be read out the previous meeting and it must be included in the Lodge summons.
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i dont know about Florida but in Georgia all members are required to vote and a brother is elected to a position by 2/3 majority vote. Members arent notified of elections its a long held tradition that election of officers happens on the last meeting of the year in December. Our lodges only meet once in December.
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thankyou all for your responses... What I was wanting to find out was there a Masonic Law that states that there MUST be 7 MM's in attendance.. So lets say that only 6 show up on olelction night.. Can we still hold an election or must there be a qourum of 7 no matter what. Of course you cant open up from the 1st and go up to the 3rd.. We would have enuf to just open up on the MM Degree but my qourum is does the qourum rule come into effect...if there is one...
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Again... that is going to be a specific rule for the Grand Lodge of Florida.... but for a general statement, I would say as long as you have enough to open a Lodge then you have enough to have a legal vote...for example in my Lodge if we were required to have a 2/3 majority of the membership present to vote we would have to shut the doors... because A) We couldnt legally get that many in our building (fire code violation) B) There is no way we could even get that many to show up if we could get them in the building..... So, I may be wrong, I am not an expert on masonic law but I would bet all that is needed is the amount needed to legally open the lodge....any above that minimum would be just extras and a plus.
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I went though the Florida digest on Masonic law five times and I couldn't find anything that stated how many members were needed for a vote. If you would like to look for yourself you can go to the GL's website and view it there.
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Originally posted by BigBob BigBob wrote:

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I went though the Florida digest on Masonic law five times and I couldn't find anything that stated how many members were needed for a vote. If you would like to look for yourself you can go to the GL's website and view it there.
 
I've done likewise Bro Bob and could find nothing about a quorum.
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Just took a look myself.  Check 25.17 to define the number for a quorum.  If you have a legal number to meet, you have a legal number to vote.
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Just took a look myself.  Check 25.17 to define the number for a quorum.  If you have a legal number to meet, you have a legal number to vote.
 
The way I'm reading it, the number is 3 members of the Lodge, plus a tyler (can be a member of another Lodge) as it appears voting must be in the MM degree.  Didn't do a complete read-through, so not sure if the presence of a Warden or WM is required as one of the 3.
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Asked a WM in my jurisdiction.

He told me 3 at minimum
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With an event so important as this, the WM should chase up as many as he can in order to get a good attendance.
Recently, we had a ballot and as WM, I chased up as many members as I could and the results were better than I anticipated.
 
 
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I'm unaware of anything in the digest or otherwise that states a quorum, outside of the minimum to open in the 3rd.  I suppose individual lodge bylaws could be amended, with permission from the Grand Master, to set such a number.  But, I highly doubt they would allow it.
 
This gem could give the power to the WM to decide though...

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