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    Posted: October/10/2015 at 2:03pm
Having my own experience with this kind of foolery, shouldn't this be against the law to mislead or misrepresent an organization? I'm very thankful I found this website as I would have been in error for a long time... I'm not a mason yet *I thought I was* but I'm determined to do it right!

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Originally posted by Cooks<img src=smileys/smiley2.gif border=0 alt=Wink title=Wink />lc CooksWinklc wrote:

In some jurisdictions an examining committee conducts the examination.
That's they way it is in Kentucky.
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In some jurisdictions an examining committee conducts the examination.
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Do you not trust they Tyler...or are you saying that you are going to examine a brother after the Tyler as well?
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It is correct that in the U.S. Symbolic degrees there are only three. Remember, other Rites do have more.
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Originally posted by simple man simple man wrote:

Originally posted by droche droche wrote:

I would think it would be very difficult anymore for a cowan to gain admittance to a lodge. They may know the basics but there are certain subtleties with which they would be unfamiliar and which would be picked up quite easily by an experienced Tyler. That is the key- the person guarding the door needs to know what he is doing. When I visited a lodge in New Brunswick, Canada, the Brother who "worked me in" was not the Tyler though- he was a Past Grand Master!

I am S.D. in one of my Lodges and If I do not know you you will be examined. Sorry but my Fraternity means a lot to me and no cowans I hope do not gain admittance. 
We have a PM who was examined at a lodge where the Grand Staff told the lodge he would be showing up at their next stating for a presentation.

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I know this thread goes back over two years, but...

Originally posted by GrimoireA3 GrimoireA3 wrote:

...I've researched several Freemason's Manuals, some to the 6th degree...

There is a serious flaw in your "research"! There are only THREE degrees is Freemasonry. There is no degree higher degree than Master Mason. There are apendant bodies that have up to 33 degrees, but they have no bearing in a Masonic lodge at all whatsoever. 

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But unfortunately I am not qualified in the remotest (?) to become a Mason.

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Originally posted by ldarnell ldarnell wrote:

In our jurisdiction, you can be vouched for by a known lodge member who has sat with the visitor previously in a lodge and can verify they are a Freemason.

Otherwise, visitors are verified by the combination of the Tyler's Oath, a valid dues card (which here can be checked for forgery by its bar code/member ID on the GL website), and a committee of examination.  

Same here.
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Originally posted by log cabin Bill log cabin Bill wrote:

In my jurisdiction of PA, the only way for an unvouched for visitor to gain admission is to present a current dues card from a recognized lodge and then go through our process of the examination of a visitor.   

Same here plus we have to recite the Tyler's Oath.
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In our jurisdiction, you can be vouched for by a known lodge member who has sat with the visitor previously in a lodge and can verify they are a Freemason.

Otherwise, visitors are verified by the combination of the Tyler's Oath, a valid dues card (which here can be checked for forgery by its bar code/member ID on the GL website), and a committee of examination.  
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Would the system know that I was a real brother even if my Lodge is all the way in Nebraska. (Or any other lodge other than those not in California?)
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In Calif. we have a computer system called Imember. The Secretary can check if someone has paid their dues and what Lodge they are from. There is also an examination that is called for if the person can't be vouched for.
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Seems like it would be a good idea to be able to quickly cross reference ones masonic identity.
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Me too...I think all the GL that fall under the GLNE need to have a computer system that has a data base that stores all of our info. including our numbers that are on our dues cards...or have a barcode on our cards that can be scanned..I'm sure I'm not the first one to think of this..it may even exist. Anyone heard of such a thing?
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I have not been able to travel yet but I look forward to be examined for admission mainly out of curiosity...
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Not sure if anyone said this yet but...wouldn't it be terrible if he's gotten away with this for let's say YEARS!! And he has learned almost everything he would need to "pass" as a regular and true brother!!
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Originally posted by GrimoireA3 GrimoireA3 wrote:

Would possessing of a Freemason Passport alleviate any 'shakedowns' when a legit Freemason visits a distant lodge?
 
 
 
 


I would think not. Logically, passports, documents, membership cards etc. etc. Can all be forged, and I would think doing so would not be that difficult. If challenged, the only way to gain admittance would be to show adequate knowledge...something that cannot be forged and can only be learned. All you would need to forge something would be a legit copy, which can be obtained, quite easily I would think, considering enough masonic paraphernalia is available these days on ebay and the like. To "forge" the needed knowledge to pass a challenge you would need to be taught, and such teachings are only going to come from one who is a true Freemason. Otherwise you would need to be self taught. Although there are copious amounts of information available on masonic history and such, the O&O is not something readily available, nor is the information needed to teach oneself how to pass a challenge.
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I'm a new MM having been raised 04 Aug 14. I was cautioned early on by brothers not to just assume that someone is a Mason just because he is wearing a Masonic ring, shirt, etc. "Strict examination of lawful Masonic knowledge."
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Originally posted by Caution1010 Caution1010 wrote:

 How is Will Smith connected to Masonry or connected to cowans?
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Lol...old school... but i dont get it..
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Originally posted by GrimoireA3 GrimoireA3 wrote:

Just a thought regarding security.
 
Does Freemasonry have an official 'cowan' who goes around to different Lodges to test their security?
 
While I was in the Navy and standing quarterdeck watches, the Navy would frequently send someone with a fake or altered I.D. to check the security of the quarterdeck.  It struck me that Freemasonry might do the same thing to their Lodges, send an official 'cowan' who tries to infiltrate a Lodge meeting with fake credentials, to to keep the Tylers on their toes.


haha!  ... No  ... this isn't national Security; or Ship's security situation.  And, to the well learned, the answers can be found.    The only real problem are the Masons that might be suspended or expelled but still have a valid Dues Card for that year.


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Just a thought regarding security.
 
Does Freemasonry have an official 'cowan' who goes around to different Lodges to test their security?
 
While I was in the Navy and standing quarterdeck watches, the Navy would frequently send someone with a fake or altered I.D. to check the security of the quarterdeck.  It struck me that Freemasonry might do the same thing to their Lodges, send an official 'cowan' who tries to infiltrate a Lodge meeting with fake credentials, to to keep the Tylers on their toes.
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I know this wasn't directed at me, but I'll chime in anyway Wink
I too am Senior Deacon, and to answer your question, it depends on the Brother.
There are many, many Brothers whom I trust implicitly.  Because they are active and take Masonry seriously and are men I look up to regarding the Craft.  I would take their word in a minute.
But if, say, a Mason whom I know hasn't been to Lodge in years (or decades) shows up because his 2nd cousin twice removed is being Initiated, I wouldn't take his word for someone accompanying him who is unknown to me.  At the very least I would quietly seek confirmation from others that I knew well.

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That is as it should be. One question though, it wasn't too clear in your post- if a Brother you knew to be a Mason in good standing were to vouch for a visitor would you still examine him? 
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Originally posted by droche droche wrote:

I would think it would be very difficult anymore for a cowan to gain admittance to a lodge. They may know the basics but there are certain subtleties with which they would be unfamiliar and which would be picked up quite easily by an experienced Tyler. That is the key- the person guarding the door needs to know what he is doing. When I visited a lodge in New Brunswick, Canada, the Brother who "worked me in" was not the Tyler though- he was a Past Grand Master!

I am S.D. in one of my Lodges and If I do not know you you will be examined. Sorry but my Fraternity means a lot to me and no cowans I hope do not gain admittance. 
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Originally posted by GrimoireA3 GrimoireA3 wrote:

Hi NobleShabba,
Thank you for that excellent response!  That did answer my question. 

If it sounded like I was trying to pry open secrets then I apologize for the naivete' of my line of questioning: that is my MA in History kicking in.  Ironically if I did become a Freemason then I would not be asking these questions.  But unfortunately I am not qualified in the remotest (?) to become a Mason.  And again I really appreciate your patience in putting up with all my questions.

The several Tyler's Oaths which I have come across are fascinating - hence the enthusiasm of my questioning.  Thanks!


What makes you say that?

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Originally posted by Bellboy Bellboy wrote:

As long as a lodge operates effectively, a cowan wouldn't sit in an open lodge in the first place. I imagine IF someone were to thwart detection before lodge were opened and they were found out, they would be escorted out and the meeting would continue. I imagine followed shortly by a stern discussion with who was supposed to watch the door and verify visitors.
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Thank you.  Interesting and civilized.
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Actually it was a sincere question?[/QUOTE]
Ok, sincere answer.

We have significant restrictions on sharing content of our ritualistic work. That's a private item, and there is an EASY way for the sincere person to learn. Rest assured that if you choose to join our ranks there will be nothing asked of you that will violate your obligations to your Country, your Family or your Deity.

Now you might say "but I can research it and find it on the internet" - well we cant help that - however we will neither confirm nor deny the accuracy of what you do find on the internet.

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Hi NobleShabba,
 
Thank you for that excellent response!  That did answer my question.  If it sounded like I was trying to pry open secrets then I apologize for the naivete' of my line of questioning: that is my MA in History kicking in.  Ironically if I did become a Freemason then I would not be asking these questions.  But unfortunately I am not qualified in the remotest (?) to become a Mason.  And again I really appreciate your patience in putting up with all my questions.
 
The several Tyler's Oaths which I have come across are fascinating - hence the enthusiasm of my questioning.  Thanks!
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Originally posted by GrimoireA3 GrimoireA3 wrote:

Originally posted by NobleShabba NobleShabba wrote:

Originally posted by GrimoireA3 GrimoireA3 wrote:


Has the Tyler's Oath changed much?  The reason I ask is that I've researched several Freemason's Manuals, some to the 6th degree, dated from the 18th & 19th centuries which have complete Tyler Oaths and it would seem that a Cowan might memorize older Oaths if they are still used today?

Nice try... :)

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Actually it was a sincere question?

Ok, sincere answer.

We have significant restrictions on sharing content of our ritualistic work. That's a private item, and there is an EASY way for the sincere person to learn. Rest assured that if you choose to join our ranks there will be nothing asked of you that will violate your obligations to your Country, your Family or your Deity.

Now you might say "but I can research it and find it on the internet" - well we cant help that - however we will neither confirm nor deny the accuracy of what you do find on the internet.

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In many states it is a violation of the law to pose as a freemason if you are not one. If i were in a lodge and a non mason was found to be present, i would push for formal trespassing charges to be filed.
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As long as a lodge operates effectively, a cowan wouldn't sit in an open lodge in the first place. I imagine IF someone were to thwart detection before lodge were opened and they were found out, they would be escorted out and the meeting would continue. I imagine followed shortly by a stern discussion with who was supposed to watch the door and verify visitors.
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Question:
 
When a Cowan is actually discovered attending a meeting in full swing, exactly how is the Cowan removed?  HEY, there's a fake sitting here?  Does he get Hoodwinked and dragged through the streets?  Do charges get pressed for trespassing? 
 
What is the official Masonic policy for expulsing a discovered Cowan in mid-session??
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Originally posted by GrimoireA3 GrimoireA3 wrote:

Originally posted by jdwalker519 jdwalker519 wrote:

In my jurisdiction, we're not required to memorize the Tyler's Oath.  The Tyler administers the oath to the brother just as when you're getting sworn in to an office...  you know, the "Repeat after me: I <state your name>"...etc.....


Has the Tyler's Oath changed much?  The reason I ask is that I've researched several Freemason's Manuals, some to the 6th degree, dated from the 18th & 19th centuries which have complete Tyler Oaths and it would seem that a Cowan might memorize older Oaths if they are still used today?


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Actually it was a sincere question?
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Ha! Yea really... his signature state; Please Note: I am not a Mason.
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Yes, it was suggested by some of the Masons on this forum that I write that I am not a Mason in my signature state rather than write it at the beginning of every sentence.
 
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Ha! Yea really... his signature state; Please Note: I am not a Mason.
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Originally posted by GrimoireA3 GrimoireA3 wrote:

Originally posted by jdwalker519 jdwalker519 wrote:

In my jurisdiction, we're not required to memorize the Tyler's Oath.  The Tyler administers the oath to the brother just as when you're getting sworn in to an office...  you know, the "Repeat after me: I <state your name>"...etc.....


Has the Tyler's Oath changed much?  The reason I ask is that I've researched several Freemason's Manuals, some to the 6th degree, dated from the 18th & 19th centuries which have complete Tyler Oaths and it would seem that a Cowan might memorize older Oaths if they are still used today?


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Originally posted by jdwalker519 jdwalker519 wrote:

In my jurisdiction, we're not required to memorize the Tyler's Oath.  The Tyler administers the oath to the brother just as when you're getting sworn in to an office...  you know, the "Repeat after me: I <state your name>"...etc.....
Has the Tyler's Oath changed much?  The reason I ask is that I've researched several Freemason's Manuals, some to the 6th degree, dated from the 18th & 19th centuries which have complete Tyler Oaths and it would seem that a Cowan might memorize older Oaths if they are still used today?
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In my jurisdiction, we're not required to memorize the Tyler's Oath.  The Tyler administers the oath to the brother just as when you're getting sworn in to an office...  you know, the "Repeat after me: I <state your name>"...etc.....
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In every state, the police are required to enforce the law, however in the different parts of the same state may have behaviors peculiar to the police in that area. Some may be very strict on speeding, others not.   Others would want to impound your vehicle for the minimum offence, while others may be cool with a warning. My point is even where you expect consistency you will experience variances, but that is not to imply that the standards are not there.
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In my jurisdiction of PA, the only way for an unvouched for visitor to gain admission is to present a current dues card from a recognized lodge and then go through our process of the examination of a visitor.   
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It is up to the examining committee ... we are taught that a Tyler's oath and current card is sufficient.
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I was always under the impression that both a current dues card and an examination was necessary to gain admission to a lodge if one was not vouched for. I have to admit though a couple of lodges I visited just gave me a cursory examination and I was left shaking my head asking do they really want to let me in just based on that?
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I would say 'it could be'     ... Some examining Committees will still test you even with a current dues card.   it is up to them.

The unique thing is my Passport, it has page where the Lodge Secretary attest the Mason is in good Standing and the home Lodge seal.  Most other Passports do not.  Thus it can be considered as 'Lawful Information'; and other Lodge Seals ... vouchers ...
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Originally posted by edwmax edwmax wrote:

Originally posted by droche droche wrote:

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No. There are other procedures one must follow in order to gain admittance into a Masonic Lodge in which they are not known. A "Masonic Passport" alone would not be sufficient to gain admittance into a lodge.


Actually, I did visit one Lodge where the SD looked at my Passport, then asked 'you've been in all these Lodges?"  ... Yep ... The SD than stated he was satisfied.  
One  ... he had been in several of those Lodges himself.
Two  ... he knew they either tried me or I was vouched for, but I would not have been admitted otherwise.



So would you say that a Masonic Passport and a current dues card would be sufficient in order to gain admission into a lodge?
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Originally posted by NobleShabba NobleShabba wrote:

Originally posted by GrimoireA3 GrimoireA3 wrote:

Oh, and what exactly are those procedures? Embarrassed


As long as its between us - it involves a right hand extended, then pulled back, the hand is extended again, then that hand is moved about in a shaking action. Then a peculiar action called a Hokie Pokie is demonstrated, followed by a 360 degree turn.

And that's what its all about. :)


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Originally posted by droche droche wrote:

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No. There are other procedures one must follow in order to gain admittance into a Masonic Lodge in which they are not known. A "Masonic Passport" alone would not be sufficient to gain admittance into a lodge.


Actually, I did visit one Lodge where the SD looked at my Passport, then asked 'you've been in all these Lodges?"  ... Yep ... The SD than stated he was satisfied.  
One  ... he had been in several of those Lodges himself.
Two  ... he knew they either tried me or I was vouched for, but I would not have been admitted otherwise.


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Originally posted by GrimoireA3 GrimoireA3 wrote:

Oh, and what exactly are those procedures? Embarrassed


As long as its between us - it involves a right hand extended, then pulled back, the hand is extended again, then that hand is moved about in a shaking action. Then a peculiar action called a Hokie Pokie is demonstrated, followed by a 360 degree turn.

And that's what its all about. :)

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(Laughing) I can tell by your winking emoticon that you don't expect me to tell you those procedures.

They are, of course, one of the things restricted to members only. Sorry.Wink
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Originally posted by droche droche wrote:

Originally posted by GrimoireA3 GrimoireA3 wrote:

Would possessing of a Freemason Passport alleviate any 'shakedowns' when a legit Freemason visits a distant lodge?
 
 
 
 

No. There are other procedures one must follow in order to gain admittance into a Masonic Lodge in which they are not known. A "Masonic Passport" alone would not be sufficient to gain admittance into a lodge.
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