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Adept?
Senior Member Joined: August/30/2013 Location: Maine Status: Offline Points: 746 |
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Lol...old school... but i dont get it..
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"It is humanity that creates god, and men think that god has made them in his image, because they make him in theirs."
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GrimoireA3
Banned Joined: May/05/2013 Location: Boston Status: Offline Points: 625 |
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Please Note: I am not a Mason. And also, I am not an anti-Mason!
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Warrior1256
Groupie Joined: September/04/2014 Location: Louisville, Ky Status: Offline Points: 97 |
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I'm a new MM having been raised 04 Aug 14. I was cautioned early on by brothers not to just assume that someone is a Mason just because he is wearing a Masonic ring, shirt, etc. "Strict examination of lawful Masonic knowledge."
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St. Matthews Lodge 906
Suburban Lodge 740 Shively-Lewis-Parkland 951 AASR, Orient of Kentucky, Valley of Louisville King Solomon Chapter 5 Louisville Council 4 North Central York Rite College 116 |
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scotladd
Quarryman Joined: September/13/2014 Location: Texas Status: Offline Points: 6 |
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I would think not. Logically, passports, documents, membership cards etc. etc. Can all be forged, and I would think doing so would not be that difficult. If challenged, the only way to gain admittance would be to show adequate knowledge...something that cannot be forged and can only be learned. All you would need to forge something would be a legit copy, which can be obtained, quite easily I would think, considering enough masonic paraphernalia is available these days on ebay and the like. To "forge" the needed knowledge to pass a challenge you would need to be taught, and such teachings are only going to come from one who is a true Freemason. Otherwise you would need to be self taught. Although there are copious amounts of information available on masonic history and such, the O&O is not something readily available, nor is the information needed to teach oneself how to pass a challenge. |
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Entered: 11 SEP 2014
Passed: 25 NOV 2014 Raised: 20 DEC 2014 Nederland, Texas A.F. & A.M Lodge #1368 |
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NewToLight84
Senior Member Joined: February/28/2014 Location: Nebraska Status: Offline Points: 118 |
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Not sure if anyone said this yet but...wouldn't it be terrible if he's gotten away with this for let's say YEARS!! And he has learned almost everything he would need to "pass" as a regular and true brother!!
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"Be careful how you live. You may be the only Mason some people will ever meet." -unknown
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jdeal
Quarryman Joined: April/16/2014 Location: Maryland Status: Offline Points: 115 |
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I have not been able to travel yet but I look forward to be examined for admission mainly out of curiosity...
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NewToLight84
Senior Member Joined: February/28/2014 Location: Nebraska Status: Offline Points: 118 |
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Me too...I think all the GL that fall under the GLNE need to have a computer system that has a data base that stores all of our info. including our numbers that are on our dues cards...or have a barcode on our cards that can be scanned..I'm sure I'm not the first one to think of this..it may even exist. Anyone heard of such a thing?
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"Be careful how you live. You may be the only Mason some people will ever meet." -unknown
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jdeal
Quarryman Joined: April/16/2014 Location: Maryland Status: Offline Points: 115 |
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Seems like it would be a good idea to be able to quickly cross reference ones masonic identity.
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rmcgehee
Quarryman Joined: November/23/2007 Location: Perris, Calif. Status: Offline Points: 411 |
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In Calif. we have a computer system called Imember. The Secretary can check if someone has paid their dues and what Lodge they are from. There is also an examination that is called for if the person can't be vouched for.
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E- 9/29/81.P- 11/10/81.R- 1/19/82
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NewToLight84
Senior Member Joined: February/28/2014 Location: Nebraska Status: Offline Points: 118 |
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Would the system know that I was a real brother even if my Lodge is all the way in Nebraska. (Or any other lodge other than those not in California?)
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"Be careful how you live. You may be the only Mason some people will ever meet." -unknown
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ldarnell
Groupie Joined: March/04/2013 Location: Dardenne Pr, MO Status: Offline Points: 87 |
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In our jurisdiction, you can be vouched for by a known lodge member who has sat with the visitor previously in a lodge and can verify they are a Freemason.
Otherwise, visitors are verified by the combination of the Tyler's Oath, a valid dues card (which here can be checked for forgery by its bar code/member ID on the GL website), and a committee of examination.
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Larry Darnell
Senior Steward, St. Charles Lodge #241 Missouri Lodge of Research #9998 I: 02 April 2013 P: 01 May 2013 R: 07 May 2013 |
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Warrior1256
Groupie Joined: September/04/2014 Location: Louisville, Ky Status: Offline Points: 97 |
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Same here plus we have to recite the Tyler's Oath. |
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St. Matthews Lodge 906
Suburban Lodge 740 Shively-Lewis-Parkland 951 AASR, Orient of Kentucky, Valley of Louisville King Solomon Chapter 5 Louisville Council 4 North Central York Rite College 116 |
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Warrior1256
Groupie Joined: September/04/2014 Location: Louisville, Ky Status: Offline Points: 97 |
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Same here. |
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St. Matthews Lodge 906
Suburban Lodge 740 Shively-Lewis-Parkland 951 AASR, Orient of Kentucky, Valley of Louisville King Solomon Chapter 5 Louisville Council 4 North Central York Rite College 116 |
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WBScott
Quarryman Joined: October/18/2014 Location: Wright City, MO Status: Offline Points: 265 |
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I know this thread goes back over two years, but...
There is a serious flaw in your "research"! There are only THREE degrees is Freemasonry. There is no degree higher degree than Master Mason. There are apendant bodies that have up to 33 degrees, but they have no bearing in a Masonic lodge at all whatsoever.
Being nosey... how do you know you are not qualified?
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Wentzville (MO) Lodge #46 - PM
Pride of the West (MO) Lodge #179 - PM (twice) Pauldingville (MO) Lodge #11 - Secretary Warrenton (MO) Lodge #609 - Secretary Past DDGM - 25th Masonic District |
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BroScubaSteve
Quarryman Joined: February/25/2013 Location: New Jersey Status: Offline Points: 375 |
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Good job on their part. |
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Initiated 4-22-13
Passed 5-29-13 Raised 6-27-13 Junior Deacon F&AM GLNJ 32°AASR NMJ, Southern Valley of NJ |
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Cookslc
Groupie Joined: June/21/2014 Location: East Millcreek Status: Offline Points: 57 |
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It is correct that in the U.S. Symbolic degrees there are only three. Remember, other Rites do have more.
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G A Cook
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Just1flyguy
Newbie Joined: September/29/2015 Location: Daytona beach f Status: Offline Points: 15 |
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Do you not trust they Tyler...or are you saying that you are going to examine a brother after the Tyler as well?
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Cookslc
Groupie Joined: June/21/2014 Location: East Millcreek Status: Offline Points: 57 |
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In some jurisdictions an examining committee conducts the examination.
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G A Cook
F&AM of Utah AF&AM of Oklahoma UGLE |
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Warrior1256
Groupie Joined: September/04/2014 Location: Louisville, Ky Status: Offline Points: 97 |
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St. Matthews Lodge 906
Suburban Lodge 740 Shively-Lewis-Parkland 951 AASR, Orient of Kentucky, Valley of Louisville King Solomon Chapter 5 Louisville Council 4 North Central York Rite College 116 |
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Just1flyguy
Newbie Joined: September/29/2015 Location: Daytona beach f Status: Offline Points: 15 |
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Having my own experience with this kind of foolery, shouldn't this be against the law to mislead or misrepresent an organization? I'm very thankful I found this website as I would have been in error for a long time... I'm not a mason yet *I thought I was* but I'm determined to do it right!
Edited by Just1flyguy - October/10/2015 at 2:03pm |
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