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Lol...old school... but i dont get it..
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Originally posted by Caution1010 Caution1010 wrote:

 How is Will Smith connected to Masonry or connected to cowans?
Please Note: I am not a Mason. And also, I am not an anti-Mason!
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I'm a new MM having been raised 04 Aug 14. I was cautioned early on by brothers not to just assume that someone is a Mason just because he is wearing a Masonic ring, shirt, etc. "Strict examination of lawful Masonic knowledge."
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Originally posted by GrimoireA3 GrimoireA3 wrote:

Would possessing of a Freemason Passport alleviate any 'shakedowns' when a legit Freemason visits a distant lodge?
 
 
 
 


I would think not. Logically, passports, documents, membership cards etc. etc. Can all be forged, and I would think doing so would not be that difficult. If challenged, the only way to gain admittance would be to show adequate knowledge...something that cannot be forged and can only be learned. All you would need to forge something would be a legit copy, which can be obtained, quite easily I would think, considering enough masonic paraphernalia is available these days on ebay and the like. To "forge" the needed knowledge to pass a challenge you would need to be taught, and such teachings are only going to come from one who is a true Freemason. Otherwise you would need to be self taught. Although there are copious amounts of information available on masonic history and such, the O&O is not something readily available, nor is the information needed to teach oneself how to pass a challenge.
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Not sure if anyone said this yet but...wouldn't it be terrible if he's gotten away with this for let's say YEARS!! And he has learned almost everything he would need to "pass" as a regular and true brother!!
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I have not been able to travel yet but I look forward to be examined for admission mainly out of curiosity...
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Me too...I think all the GL that fall under the GLNE need to have a computer system that has a data base that stores all of our info. including our numbers that are on our dues cards...or have a barcode on our cards that can be scanned..I'm sure I'm not the first one to think of this..it may even exist. Anyone heard of such a thing?
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Seems like it would be a good idea to be able to quickly cross reference ones masonic identity.
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In Calif. we have a computer system called Imember. The Secretary can check if someone has paid their dues and what Lodge they are from. There is also an examination that is called for if the person can't be vouched for.
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Would the system know that I was a real brother even if my Lodge is all the way in Nebraska. (Or any other lodge other than those not in California?)
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In our jurisdiction, you can be vouched for by a known lodge member who has sat with the visitor previously in a lodge and can verify they are a Freemason.

Otherwise, visitors are verified by the combination of the Tyler's Oath, a valid dues card (which here can be checked for forgery by its bar code/member ID on the GL website), and a committee of examination.  
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Originally posted by log cabin Bill log cabin Bill wrote:

In my jurisdiction of PA, the only way for an unvouched for visitor to gain admission is to present a current dues card from a recognized lodge and then go through our process of the examination of a visitor.   

Same here plus we have to recite the Tyler's Oath.
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Originally posted by ldarnell ldarnell wrote:

In our jurisdiction, you can be vouched for by a known lodge member who has sat with the visitor previously in a lodge and can verify they are a Freemason.

Otherwise, visitors are verified by the combination of the Tyler's Oath, a valid dues card (which here can be checked for forgery by its bar code/member ID on the GL website), and a committee of examination.  

Same here.
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I know this thread goes back over two years, but...

Originally posted by GrimoireA3 GrimoireA3 wrote:

...I've researched several Freemason's Manuals, some to the 6th degree...

There is a serious flaw in your "research"! There are only THREE degrees is Freemasonry. There is no degree higher degree than Master Mason. There are apendant bodies that have up to 33 degrees, but they have no bearing in a Masonic lodge at all whatsoever. 

Originally posted by GrimoireA3 GrimoireA3 wrote:

But unfortunately I am not qualified in the remotest (?) to become a Mason.

Being nosey... how do you know you are not qualified? 
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Originally posted by simple man simple man wrote:

Originally posted by droche droche wrote:

I would think it would be very difficult anymore for a cowan to gain admittance to a lodge. They may know the basics but there are certain subtleties with which they would be unfamiliar and which would be picked up quite easily by an experienced Tyler. That is the key- the person guarding the door needs to know what he is doing. When I visited a lodge in New Brunswick, Canada, the Brother who "worked me in" was not the Tyler though- he was a Past Grand Master!

I am S.D. in one of my Lodges and If I do not know you you will be examined. Sorry but my Fraternity means a lot to me and no cowans I hope do not gain admittance. 
We have a PM who was examined at a lodge where the Grand Staff told the lodge he would be showing up at their next stating for a presentation.

Good job on their part.
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It is correct that in the U.S. Symbolic degrees there are only three. Remember, other Rites do have more.
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Do you not trust they Tyler...or are you saying that you are going to examine a brother after the Tyler as well?
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In some jurisdictions an examining committee conducts the examination.
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Originally posted by Cooks<img src=smileys/smiley2.gif border=0 alt=Wink title=Wink />lc CooksWinklc wrote:

In some jurisdictions an examining committee conducts the examination.
That's they way it is in Kentucky.
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Having my own experience with this kind of foolery, shouldn't this be against the law to mislead or misrepresent an organization? I'm very thankful I found this website as I would have been in error for a long time... I'm not a mason yet *I thought I was* but I'm determined to do it right!

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