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    Posted: April/02/2007 at 4:53am
what is walking the sword
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  I dont  who move this post here but I want to know the same thing but do not give this info to no one if you know the answer we have a ninth district coming on the 14th Ill will be taught then, if you are not taught this in the lodge I dont think they should learn this here.
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It is done like this...

One the real though...upstate is correct.
 
 
 
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      Greetings, I'm in the Ninth District within my Jurisdiction and I myself want to learn this as well, I am suppose to get my Past Masters Degree and Learn How to walk the Tyler's Sword, but I ve been told once you learn this there is no Lodge(but Im sure there are some) that can deny you entrance, Thats why I feel a Forum like this Tyled or no Tyled is not the place for such instruction, I know I already stated this but I wanted to let everybody know about the Past Masters Degree and Ill be petioning the RA in October.
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Well as you stated there are some Lodges that deny entrance for not knowing this.  For that simple fact I believe that even though is is mainly a PHA thing, I think that everyone that enjoys visiting Lodges should know how to do it. Because you never know.  I was in this situation before, but luckly a brother vouched for me as I was leaving. (He arrived a little late)


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   See, I didnt know that and I wasnt sure if it was a PHA thing or mainstream did it as well, maybe Ill ask my friend PM if he has heard of such a thing.
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Frostman07,
"Walking the Tyler's Sword", as I was instructed, was one of the tactics that was developed by PHA Masons to detect the growing numbers of bogus men calling themselves Masons, trying to enter our lodges. The jist of it is an oath requested by the tyler or an examining committee to a stranger who desired entrance into a lodge. Normally it was given in the anteroom or at the altar (before the lodge is opened). The catch is the method of giving the oath, the floorwork. Which originally was simple but evolved into sometimes very elaborate floorwork. It didn't take long before these bogus groups learned and began using it. PHA lodges started varying the methods of "Walking.....", that soon there were so many variations that essentially it became useless. But there are still some lodges, as you found out, that use their form of it. Now many, if not all, jurisdictions use some type of Tyler's Oath which is similiar to "Walking...", in language but have eliminated the floorwork.
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 I didn't want to revive this topic, but I have finally learned how to "Walk the Tyler's Sword". It is interesting, there are many variations depending on how the sword is presented to you. The jest of it is the "Tyler's Oath" which is no secret, but the floor work is indeed something all together different.  
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Bro. Flo-- I had the same question.  Big%20smile


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I thought I knew how to "walk the sword", but now I'm not so sure.  Could someone PM me the scene and scenrio. Once Upstate said "the way the sword is presented" I got cloudy.

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I would recommend you to ask some older member of the craft.  That is where I learned it from.

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Originally posted by Flotown79 Flotown79 wrote:

Did you cut yourself?Tongue
Now that is funny, lol..........................

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There are numerous variations to Walking the Tyler's Sword and I highly recommend you ask your local lodge members, ie. Lecturer and/or Tyler, how this is performed and stick to that version.
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I have asked I got different versions.  Now I asking here
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It is beautiful once it is excuted well...
I first learn it when I was appointed as the Grand Lodge's Tyler, during my PHO days...
But now here in our lodge under the Grand Lodge of Philippines also teaches this process with slight little twist...
 
PM me... If you like our version...
 
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sorry i just wanna say u guys made me lol@with the "cut urself" comment...
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i to am learning to walk the tyler's sword, but i will find out within my lodge. if you can't find out there, where can you.
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To be honest you can do a WWW search............it wont demonstrate the movements, but you gets the words accompanying the same.
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Walking the Tyler’s sword, if you don’t know it how can you proclaim to be a Master Mason? And under penalty of Oath should not be disclosed here. I would recommend speaking with your Most Worshipful Master to answer your question. Respectfully submitted.

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Originally posted by mandog911 mandog911 wrote:

Walking the Tyler’s sword, if you don’t know it how can you proclaim to be a Master Mason? And under penalty of Oath should not be disclosed here. I would recommend speaking with your Most Worshipful Master to answer your question. Respectfully submitted.

 
I don't belive that not knowing how to "Walk the Tyler's Sword" has anything to do with being able to proclaim that you are a Master Mason. Every jurisdiction is soverign unto itself and that is just not taught in some places.
 
 
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I was taught how to walk the sword once. I've never had to do it so I only remember bits and pieces of it. Not knowing how to walk the sword doesnt make you any less of a Master Mason. I think the only thing requried for a visitor should be a current dues card. Maybe a few questions. What we would do in my old lodge is have them inspect the alter. Of course we would have it wrong on purpose. And see if they catch it.
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Originally posted by mandog911 mandog911 wrote:

Walking the Tyler’s sword, if you don’t know it how can you proclaim to be a Master Mason? And under penalty of Oath should not be disclosed here. I would recommend speaking with your Most Worshipful Master to answer your question. Respectfully submitted.



I never heard of this until joining this forum and seeing comments from PHA Masons.  So you must be PHA.   And, I have not found a description of "walking the sword" on the internet.
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More than likely you wont find it.  Hopefully it never appears.  It is one of those mouth to ear learning things that was a necessity years ago.  In this internet age, cell phone, ect it is too easy to find out if someone is an impostor.

Most I don't know of any PHA GL that requires this.  If a PHA GL requires this please list the GL.

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What if you're going to visit a PHA lodge your GL has recognition with and you don't know it? Will you be denied entry? 

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150man, I don't know of any PHA GL that requires this.  I will have a more definitive answer before I go to bed.

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I am going out on a limb here, but most of the responses I have gotten given a no response, so I am going to say that it is not a requirement.

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I HAD THE PLEASURE OF ATTENDING A GL WORKSHOP LAST FALL.ONE SUBJECT WAS " WALKING THE TYLERS SWORD. IT WAS TRULY BEAUTIFUL TO BEHOLD. HAD I NOT ATTENDED I DOUBT I WOILD HAVE RECEIVED THAT MUCH LIGHT. IF INTERESTED TRY AND DO THE SAME.Clap
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We had a Bro from texas in our lodge who took on the position as J.D., after raising new candidates he teaches them how to walk the way "they" did it in texas, but our ADDGM showed them another way to and confused the poor folks  but they got the way its done from the worsh himself.
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That would be my only concern, if everyone has a diff variation of it, then who's to say which is correct.  But of course if i go to a diff jurisdiction they will automatically assume there version is correct and i would hope that if im a little off from there's that they would use another form of recognition vice send a perfectly good visitor away.  

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