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    Posted: June/02/2009 at 2:21pm
Hello All, I'm glad to be a part of this forum. I'm in the process of becoming an EA. It's been voted on just waiting for a date. I have some questions though.
 
I was doing some general research of the lodge, I'm joining and found it to be on the Bogus list:
 
 
Heres the Lodge information:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Please give you value imput on this situation is this a true Grand Lodge?
Is it a Bogus Lodge?
 
Pleae Help?
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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  Quote tm274 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June/02/2009 at 6:22pm

Welcome to the forum.

Now as for the bogus Lodge......the best way is look up the "recognised" Lodges in MD(you didn't say what part of MD you're from)  or a member here can contact you with a "recognised" Lodge close to home.

This link might help. 
  List of Prince Hall GL Links:
http://mwphgldc.com/index.php?q=node/67
 
or this...:
                http://www.mason.itgo.com/links.html
 
 
Speak to the "recognised" Lodge and they'll start the wheels turning.
Good luck.
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If it is listed on http://www.thephylaxis.org/bogus/vol8.php as being Bogus.    ....It is Bogus! ......     You will not get the recognition of which one would exspect from other MS or PHA Lodges.

Take a look at these threads;  they should help with most of your questions:
http://forum.mastermason.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5024

http://forum.mastermason.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5206

http://forum.mastermason.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=4901 
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  Quote Flotown79 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June/02/2009 at 6:51pm
Originally posted by Truewalk

Hello All, I'm glad to be a part of this forum. I'm in the process of becoming an EA. It's been voted on just waiting for a date. I have some questions though.
 
I was doing some general research of the lodge, I'm joining and found it to be on the Bogus list:
 
 
Heres the Lodge information:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Please give you value imput on this situation is this a true Grand Lodge?
Is it a Bogus Lodge?
 
Pleae Help?


The Hiram GL of MD is one of the many clandestine groups in this country.  It is clandestine because the group that issued the charters for this GL is clandestine also.  So the rules of "Ancient Craft Masonry, as stated by Albert G. Mackey" were not followed.  (quoted from Hiram GL website)  The link to the GL of MD is a deceptive product that these groups often use to make uninformed people think that they are recognized by these legitimate bodies.

A Grand Lodge must have been established by: a) a recognised Grand Lodge, or b) three (nowadays) or more regularly constituted private Lodges, formed in accordance within the rules and customs of a regular Grand Lodge.  This was not done.  Please request members of this GL to inform you of the GL that issued the charter for the Oriental Grand Lodge, Ancient Free and Accepted Masons of the State of New Jersey.  Also ask if it ever traces back to the UGLE, GL of Ireland, or GL of Scotland.  Also request the proof to see with you own eyes.
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See also: http://forum.mastermason.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5024
 
Ok, which one of you administrators or moderators have been advertising that "Buy One, Get One Free Clandestine Membership in Mastermason.com Forums" deal again?
 
I thought we stopped that little promotional exercise.
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Bug, it must be the IF & AM newbies again.  Anything to build their down line......
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  Quote tm274 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June/02/2009 at 10:33pm
Originally posted by Palmetto Bug

See also: http://forum.mastermason.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5024
 
Ok, which one of you administrators or moderators have been advertising that "Buy One, Get One Free Clandestine Membership in Mastermason.com Forums" deal again?
 
I thought we stopped that little promotional exercise.
 
 
   Not I.......Confused
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Originally posted by tm274

Welcome to the forum.

Now as for the bogus Lodge......the best way is look up the "recognised" Lodges in MD(you didn't say what part of MD you're from)  or a member here can contact you with a "recognised" Lodge close to home.

This link might help. 
  List of Prince Hall GL Links:
http://mwphgldc.com/index.php?q=node/67
 
or this...:
                http://www.mason.itgo.com/links.html
 
 
Speak to the "recognised" Lodge and they'll start the wheels turning.
Good luck.
 
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  Quote Truewalk Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June/03/2009 at 5:20am
Originally posted by Palmetto Bug

See also: http://forum.mastermason.com/forum_posts.asp?TID=5024
 
Ok, which one of you administrators or moderators have been advertising that "Buy One, Get One Free Clandestine Membership in Mastermason.com Forums" deal again?
 
I thought we stopped that little promotional exercise.
 
 
Sir I'm new to all of this as long as I can remember that lodge has been in my old neighborhood. I thought all Mason Lodges were Legit and had no Idea. I stumble unto the bogus.com researching the history of the Lodge. It's onething when you know a lodge is bogus and you post on a site but it's another when you dont have a clue. I came because I needed some help to sort all of this out not to be criticise and punished for something I did not know.
 
I'm a God Fearing, Family Man, who have wanted to a Mason for a very longtime but kept coming up short because the members I came accross werent active. When I finally found someone active they belong to a bogus GL.


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  Quote tm274 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: June/03/2009 at 7:54am
Originally posted by Truewalk  
Sir I'm new to all of this as long as I can remember that lodge has been in my old neighborhood. I thought all Mason Lodges were Legit and had know Idea. I stumble unto the bogus.com researching the history of the Lodge. It's onething when you know a lodge is bogus and you post on a site but it's another when you dont have a clue. I came because I needed some help to sort all of this out not to be criticise and punished for something I did not know.
 
I'm a God Fearing, Family Man, who have wanted to a Mason for a very longtime but kept coming up short because the members I came accross werent active. When I finally found someone active they belong to a bogus GL.
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Well, I'm sure your wiser for the experience and well dowe on doing research about "bogus" Lodges. Me, when I joined up didn't know they existed either and I soon learned about them.
From what i can gather, you haven't joined a Lodge yet, either "legit" or Bogus, so there's no harm done, but if you peruse the links provided and then contact a Lodge in Baltimore(where I have been), then you are on the right path.
I know one of our members is a member of a Lodge in Baltimore(Patapsco Lodge # 183 Baltimore,Maryland).so there's a start.&n
 
 
Well, I'm sure your wiser for the experience and well dowe on doing research about "bogus" Lodges. Me, when I joined up didn't know they existed either and I soon learned about them.
From what i can gather, you haven't joined a Lodge yet, either "legit" or Bogus, so there's no harm done, but if you peruse the links provided and then contact a Lodge in Baltimore(where I have been), then you are on the right path.
I know one of our members is a member of a Lodge in Baltimore(Patapsco Lodge # 183 Baltimore,Maryland).so there's a start.  And we know it's "legit".
Hope this helps you......keep us informed.
 
 
PS.        I'm buggered if I know why this appears twice?  Confused
 


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Originally posted by Flotown79

Originally posted by Truewalk

Hello All, I'm glad to be a part of this forum. I'm in the process of becoming an EA. It's been voted on just waiting for a date. I have some questions though.
 
I was doing some general research of the lodge, I'm joining and found it to be on the Bogus list:
 
 
Heres the Lodge information:
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
Please give you value imput on this situation is this a true Grand Lodge?
Is it a Bogus Lodge?
 
Pleae Help?


The Hiram GL of MD is one of the many clandestine groups in this country.  It is clandestine because the group that issued the charters for this GL is clandestine also.  So the rules of "Ancient Craft Masonry, as stated by Albert G. Mackey" were not followed.  (quoted from Hiram GL website)  The link to the GL of MD is a deceptive product that these groups often use to make uninformed people think that they are recognized by these legitimate bodies.

A Grand Lodge must have been established by: a) a recognised Grand Lodge, or b) three (nowadays) or more regularly constituted private Lodges, formed in accordance within the rules and customs of a regular Grand Lodge.  This was not done.  Please request members of this GL to inform you of the GL that issued the charter for the Oriental Grand Lodge, Ancient Free and Accepted Masons of the State of New Jersey.  Also ask if it ever traces back to the UGLE, GL of Ireland, or GL of Scotland.  Also request the proof to see with you own eyes.
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Thank you for your imput and I will do so but I'm in the process of contacting the Price Hall GL lodge that's about a half a block away from Hiram.
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Originally posted by tm274

Originally posted by Truewalk  
Sir I'm new to all of this as long as I can remember that lodge has been in my old neighborhood. I thought all Mason Lodges were Legit and had know Idea. I stumble unto the bogus.com researching the history of the Lodge. It's onething when you know a lodge is bogus and you post on a site but it's another when you dont have a clue. I came because I needed some help to sort all of this out not to be criticise and punished for something I did not know.
 
I'm a God Fearing, Family Man, who have wanted to a Mason for a very longtime but kept coming up short because the members I came accross werent active. When I finally found someone active they belong to a bogus GL.
 
 
Well, I'm sure your wiser for the experience and well dowe on doing research about bogus Lodges. Me, when I joined up didn't know they existed either and I soon learned about them.
From what i can gather, you haven't joined a Lodge yet, either legit or Bogus, so there's no harm done, but if you peruse the links provided and then contact a Lodge in Baltimore(where I have been), then you are on the right path.
I know one of our members is a member of a Lodge in Baltimore(Patapsco Lodge # 183 Baltimore,Maryland).so there's a start.  And we know it's legit.
Hope this helps you......keep us informed.
 
 
PS.        I'm buggered if I know why this appears twice?  Confused
 
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Thanks for the imput and now I'm looking into excepted GLs of Maryland.
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Truewalk:  RUN, do not walk, away from joining Hiram GL.  Although I'm not from Baltimore, I know exactly where it is.  PM me if you need any assistance.
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Originally posted by Bro Gerry Kendle

Greetings from Hagerstown, Maryland, Friendship Lodge #84  GLoM.
Oh.....another one from 'Marilan'.Big%20smile
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Hagerstown?.......how far from Annapolis??
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Ok Tm274 its merland not marilan. You guys got to get it right so when you visit you sound like you are from here now bro's up in Bmore say it differently than us down the beltway.
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Ok Tm274 its merland not marilan. You guys got to get it right so when you visit you sound like you are from here now bro's up in Bmore say it differently than us down the beltway.
 
 
Hmmm.........I hate to tell you, but some "gentlemen" from the South, inform me that it is "Marilan"Avatar
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You'll notice I am not saying who, either. A Mason doesn't rat.
 
I'm quite happy to say..........."Maryland".Big%20smile
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Yeah we dont want that now do we. Wink
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  Quote tm274 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: October/29/2009 at 8:39pm
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Yeah we dont want that now do we. Wink
Nope..we don't.
I've trained myself to say "Marilan", now that I found out that my friends in MD, say it the same way.
The Southerners JUST maybe right here.Wink
 
 
 
Psst.........what's a beltway????Confused
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Yeap we call it marilan also so no offense.  I am about an hour from Annapolis 20 minutes from Frederick. Wink

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Originally posted by frostman07

Yeah we dont want that now do we. Wink
Psst.........what's a beltway????Confused
The Interstate around Washington DC.  Generally everything that happens inside the beltway is politically motivated and only half true.   Also called the full spin zone.

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Originally posted by tm274

Originally posted by frostman07

Yeah we dont want that now do we. Wink
Psst.........what's a beltway????Confused
The Interstate around Washington DC.  Generally everything that happens inside the beltway is politically motivated and only half true.   Also called the full spin zone.
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Bro, Gerry, I've visited Friendship Lodge on 2 occasions. I live down 81 in Berkeley county. I hope to get up there again in the Spring.
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