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jaya
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That is a problem with electronic communications. There is nothing in this forum that is secure. Packets are unencrypted and can be "captured" at any place along the lines from your computer to the server. A man in the middle attack would open up everything you send on the internet to someone with the knowledge to do it. These forums do not use encryption or a secure tunnel for communications. Always assume that anything you type can be viewed by a profane. Even if it were secure, there are some in the tyled area that your GL might not recognize. In my case, the GL of NC does recognize PHA for instance. However, they only recognize the mwphglnc as regular. They do not recognize PHA in other states as yet. It is that way in many states. That means that we can not carry on masonic communications with PHA members in other states. That makes the tyled section less tyled even.
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Jay Austin
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daves
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That's why we must all take the greatest care in discussing ritual etc. What might be OK in some jurisdictions, may be completely unacceptable in others. If in doubt, say nothing.
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The Carrington Lodge (WAC 363)
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masonic.truths
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Please let me know if any of the following statements are incorrect:
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jaya
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What they are trying to say is that with how this forum is set up, there might be someone in the tiled area that is not recgonized by your grand lodge. Each person with access to those areas has proven themselves to be what they are, EA, FC, or MM to an admin or mod. But even with this, not all jurisdictions recgonize others. For example, I live in NC where the GO of NC does recgonize the MWPHGLNC but I can not drive an hour down the road to SC and visit a PHA lodge there because there is no recgonization there. That being the case, there probably is at least one Brother in the tiled area that is a PHA mason from SC. Edited by jaya - February/27/2011 at 1:32pm |
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Jay Austin
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Don_Mega
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if that be the case somebody in the wrong position
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THE EXQUISITE DON_MEGA!
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Caution1010
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East_Regalia
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I will be interested (when the time comes) to see how I am tried and tested by the Tyler here. I have found from another Masonic Forum online that the methods of testing in the North American constitutions are very different from ours in Grand Lodge of Scotland. I was once given a series of questions that frankly I had some difficulty answering due to differences in ritual and in how questions may be asked or phrased.
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Senior Deacon
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Ashton
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I submitted my request to Palmetto Bug via PM.
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150man
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The tyled forums are not visible to the public. You have to prove yourself to be a regular master mason to gain access. This is the public forum you have access to which is open to mason and non-mason alike. Edited by 150man - June/15/2010 at 11:15am |
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Pleiades Lodge 478
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mustangcobratim
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Actually they don't! When i registered i was expecting to have to prove myself a M.M,but all i had to do is put some info in about myself. so in that respect I would have to say you would have to watch your tongue on this forum. If it isn't readily available to any non mason then I wouldn't talk about it here!
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edwmax
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Better Yet, .... You MUST PM a Mod or Admin and ASK! ... That is so stated in the sticky. ... 2B1ASK .... |
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"He who would assume to govern others must first learn to govern himself."
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daves
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The Carrington Lodge (WAC 363)
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7 precepts
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so how do i gain access to this "tyled" forum?
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Bro. Kendall Jewell
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brother felix
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Actually this isnt a the tyled forums your still in waiting. like i am. wish someone get me on that black and white. Im scared of the dark.
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Brother Valderrama
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brother felix
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simply put if you gonna treat it like a lodgethen do so..
"The first and constant care of Masons when convened?" Will there be a understanding that there is no universal grand lodge over all. One jurisdiction may not be similar to another even in there own state, county, or city. |
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Brother Valderrama
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brother felix
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CAn i get a admin to question call me so i can get access to the tiled rooms.
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Brother Valderrama
Heir's of Abraham #069 Norfolk Va. Mines for yours! initiated Nov 18, 2006 Passed Mar 27, 2007 "Born on" Oct 5, 2007 |
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Stuntman98
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I read everybody's Post's and replies and some are quite funny, what is the job of the tyler.... how does he do his job.... Gents that is what i see happening, keep up the good work Palmetto!
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Palmetto Bug
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We are slick, ain't we?
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tm274
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Seems to me that the profane say that to the Tyler, when they try to enter a Lodge also.
Small World, eh?
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kamatu
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Aha! So this is a clever trap to deceive those who are not one of us! Since it talks about tyled access, but it is only an introduction. Sorry, I've been reading too much antimasonic poo-poo lately. So, how does one prove themselves? Nevermind I read the sticky. Edited by kamatu - May/18/2010 at 12:40pm |
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Stuntman98
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Greeting Brothers
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S.S. Sons of Light No.77
P.M. Pride of The Walton No.110 MWPHGL Washington District No.9 SPAIN MILITARY CONSISTORY #99 AASR,PHA |
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150man
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Kamatu, are you a mason? If so, where do you hail from? Imho, this site is very helpful for those who aren't masons to get helpful advice on facts and fiction of the craft and how to go about becoming one. And for those who are regular masons and wish to speak masonically, there is the tyled forums, which you have to prove you are a master mason of a regular masonic lodge. Both prove to be good a nice conduit for communicating with masons from around the world, if you enjoy healthy conversation.
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Pleiades Lodge 478
Illumination Lodge No. 5 Old Chicago York Rite Bodies Medinah Shriners Valley of Chicago Illuminati AMD Council No 495 www.livingstonesmagazine.com |
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joelpetes_jm
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I thought the same thing until I proved up and a new forum header became visible.
Edited by joelpetes_jm - May/18/2010 at 8:54am |
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edwmax
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You only have access to the Public Forums, not the Tyled Forums. You will have to prove yourself for that access. |
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"He who would assume to govern others must first learn to govern himself."
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tm274
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True.......until you prove yourself.
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kamatu
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Hmmm, the problem I see is that I simply filled out a standard registration form for this forum software, got an email, clicked a link and I have access. So, I could be a profane for all everyone here knows.
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MasterHangman33
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Grips, Words and Signs is what they consider "Secret" here in mi. But i tend to be very discreet about mostly everything else as well. I'll discuss bits and pieces but vaguely. Even less that what is given to new Brother to share with their Family here. The GL has a program that most Lodges have implemented called "Share the Secret", where the newly Initiated, Passed and Raised Brother is given booklets to share with his Family that basically says what happened to Him and what it meant. Was cool when i went thru, but i dont Know if i like it now very much.
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Worshipful Master
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Jayman
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Think of it this way, you personally, haven't determined the other participants to be true masons. Those that have determined the participants to be true masons are unknown to you.
I would treat the "tyled" area to be like the post-lodge refreshment. You are surrounded by Brethren and can speak freely as a Mason, but without revealing anything that you would in the lodge room itself.
So yes, there is a reason to have a restricted area, but by no means does that mean you should speak of any secrets.
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edwmax
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They are Tyled in the sense that one has to request access and prove himself to be a Master Mason to an Admin or Mod. .... Other than that the "Tyled" forums are private and for the discussion of masonic topics normally done in private between Master Masons.
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"He who would assume to govern others must first learn to govern himself."
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tm274
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Have you a better word?
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TonyTheTiger
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If they aren't tiled then wouldn't it be a good idea to remove the word tile so that there is no confusion?
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Palmetto Bug
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Let me clarify...
The rules of this forum allow access to the tiled forums by some men that may not necessarily be recognized by your Grand Lodge. Example: A member of PHA of Alabama may be granted access. A member of the F&AM of Alabama may also have access. Neither recognize the other. Another example: The fairly recent period of time during which the Grand Lodges of Washington, DC, and New York redrew recognition of each other.
My overall point is that the "tiled" forums should not be treated as though they were tiled lodges. They are not. They are simply places for more serious and sometimes sensitive discussions that we do not necessarily want to have in front of the general public.
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Lighthouse
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I will point out, Joshua, you could have someone show up in your Lodge too, who is not actually a Mason, but faked everyone out enough to gain entrance.
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joshuhwha
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If there are people maybe shouldnt be in there.... then... Not sure.
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Joshua
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tm274
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So you see no point in having a "Tyled" area.?????
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joshuhwha
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so.. whats the point? and that sure does arise alot of thoughts in my head about that spot- hmmm...... thats not good.
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Joshua
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Palmetto Bug
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All should remember that - though these forums use the word "tiled" - they are not in any way, shape, or form the same as a tiled lodge. With that said, all are advised to be very careful when it comes to discussing ritual or the internal business of one's lodge or Grand Lodge.
All are also reminded that there are folks that have access to the "tiled" sections that may not necessarily be from Grand Jurisdictions recognized by your particular Grand Jurisdiction.
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