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    Posted: June/12/2011 at 7:38pm
The most overlooked officer of the lodge?
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Each officer is important. Without any of them, the lodge would not function to the best of its ability. The Tyler's job is very important to the functioning of the lodge.
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I wouldn't think so.  The SW, the Tyler, and any Master Mason compose my Lodge's investigative committee when we have a visiting Brother.  The Tyler is in charge of security and the Lodge property.  He has a very important job.  My Lodge has a tradition of sending the JPM to be Tyler.
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In my lodge, usually the IPM becomes Director of Ceremonies and then becomes Tyler. Here we always open in the first and then go up in the next degree, so when the EA's or FC's leave the lodge room - usually the Tyler practices with them on their proficiency. That's why - it's very important that he is experienced and knowledgeable brother.
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Originally posted by canuck canuck wrote:

In my lodge, usually the IPM becomes Director of Ceremonies and then becomes Tyler. Here we always open in the first and then go up in the next degree, so when the EA's or FC's leave the lodge room - usually the Tyler practices with them on their proficiency. That's why - it's very important that he is experienced and knowledgeable brother.
Same here in Oz.
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Perhaps it would be more accurate to describe the Tyler as the most underrated officer in a Lodge?
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  Did  you know that the Tyler was the first paid position of the Lodge.  In early days of FreeMasonry, it was the Tyler that washed and kept the aprons in good condition.  Fixed the regalia if it needed to be fixed. Laid out the Lodge, put away the Lodge, remember in those days Lodges did not meet in Temples/Buildings that they owned.  They rented or used spaces that the public could also use at times, so everything had to be put away.
     The Tyler had to know everyone in the Lodge, for it was he that most of the time hand delivered the Lodge notices.  It was the Tyler at times that drew the emblems on the floor.
 
       Now with that said, the Tyler should be someone that knows what he is doing.  I see a lot of Lodges throw outside a new member or someone that really has no idea what they are doing. He has to see that everyone coming into Lodge is a Lodge member, he has to know all the signs, and should know most of the ritual.  He has to see that everyone should sign the registers, both members and visitors.  He should see that everyone has an apron.  He should know how to salute with a sword.  He should know what to and how to receive a visitor.  He should know how to read the List of Lodges book.  He should when to knock to allow a member or visitor into the Lodge room. He should know who to go to, to ask about a investigation committee for a visitor. He should stay outside the Lodge room when Lodge is open.  He should see that the members and visitors aprons are clean and plenty out for Lodge meetings.  He should help with putting out and away the Lodge regalia.  He could help out with the candidates.   He should be friendly, for he is the first one that visitors and members see a Officer of that Lodge.  He should have a idea who is and is not a member of the Lodge.  He should know what to ask a member for validation, as well as visitors from his own country and those from out of the country.   I see too many Lodges take the Tyler's position as a common anyone can do it.  But it is a job for someone that knows what he is doing.  If done correctly, it is one of the best and hard and above all lonely jobs in FreeMasonry.  I know I have been a Tyler for numerous Lodges for over ten years and still fill in when need to.  In my observations and my own words, it is NOT a job for the new candidate, but someone with some experience, it could be passed down to others, when others are trained properly.  It is embrassing when I go to Lodge, and the Tyler a new member is thrown outside, just to have someone there, he does not know what degree, when to allow or how you get into the Lodge room once Lodge is open.  He does not check to see that you are a member or visitor, and above all does not vouch the registers that all have signed afterwards.  Sorry, but just my thoughts, for I take pride in being Tyler and do the best job that I can, I am the first Officer of the Lodge that someone sees, the first line of defense, a ambassador of the Lodge.
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Whenever we have degrees (called communications) my lodge assigns an associate Tyler as well.  Well, I think he volunteers for it every time!

 
I agree it is important to have an "established" Brother at the door.  It's nice as a candidate to have someone there organized enough to not go "hey, who the heck are you!?!" LOL
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Cambridge Mason, your description of what a Tyler should be fits Massachusetts' Morningstar Lodge's former Tyler, the late, great Robert Shaw to a "T."

While alive, he was the "go-to" man for everything Masonic in Worcester.

Too bad not all Lodges have the resources to produce such a Tyler like him and like you describe.

What is unfortunate is not so much that they don't have the resources to produce Tylers like you describe, but that the requirements for Tylers are not widely disseminated, known or required by a lot of Lodges out there.
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Camb.Mason----A very nice description of the tyler's duties.  I enjoyed reading that and also reading of how you take pride in being the tyler.  Thanks for sharing that with us. 
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I have heard it said that in some old Lodges in Scotland, the Tyler was required to hold out his sword horizontally at the end of the meeting so that his wages could be placed on the flat of the sword's blade. If his had been drinking while guarding the Lodge, then he wouldn't have been able to hold the sword steady and his wages would fall off the blade. I'm not sure if this story is true, but I'd like to think it is.
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Originally posted by log cabin Bill log cabin Bill wrote:

Camb.Mason----A very nice description of the tyler's duties.  I enjoyed reading that and also reading of how you take pride in being the tyler.  Thanks for sharing that with us. 
 
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Its an Honorable job.  Being left outside with little to do most of the time. 

Normally once our Lodge is opened properly, our Inner Guard asks for permission to Tyle from the open door, so that they Tyler can see what is going on. 

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When Tyled from an open door, can the Tyler participate in the meeting? ie: Can he make, or second any motions?
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 If the door is open, then no Lodge business takes place.  If inside the Lodge room he could participate in Lodge business, but since he is suppose to be outside the door, he can not participate in any business once Lodge has started.  The Lodge room doors are closed if Lodge is in working mode.  No business should take place with a open door.  With this said, each Lodge does their work differently.  Just a FYI to all, if a DDGM or GM or someone from the GL is around, do not have the Tyled or unTyled doors open once the Lodge is opened.  Even balloting, the Tyler can not ballot.  That is why in some Lodges guards are placed at the several entrances of the Lodge to see that none leave or enter during the ballot.

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Originally posted by CAMB.MASON CAMB.MASON wrote:

Even balloting, the Tyler can not ballot.  That is why in some Lodges guards are placed at the several entrances of the Lodge to see that none leave or enter during the ballot.
 
In my jurisdiction he can and does vote.  Presuming he is a member of the Lodge.
We have a procedure where he is temporarily replaced in order to vote.
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Originally posted by CAMB.MASON CAMB.MASON wrote:

 If the door is open, then no Lodge business takes place.  If inside the Lodge room he could participate in Lodge business, but since he is suppose to be outside the door, he can not participate in any business once Lodge has started.  The Lodge room doors are closed if Lodge is in working mode.  No business should take place with a open door.  With this said, each Lodge does their work differently.  Just a FYI to all, if a DDGM or GM or someone from the GL is around, do not have the Tyled or unTyled doors open once the Lodge is opened.  Even balloting, the Tyler can not ballot.  That is why in some Lodges guards are placed at the several entrances of the Lodge to see that none leave or enter during the ballot.


Here, all MM present are required to vote.
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Originally posted by fireman99 fireman99 wrote:

Originally posted by CAMB.MASON CAMB.MASON wrote:

 If the door is open, then no Lodge business takes place.  If inside the Lodge room he could participate in Lodge business, but since he is suppose to be outside the door, he can not participate in any business once Lodge has started.  The Lodge room doors are closed if Lodge is in working mode.  No business should take place with a open door.  With this said, each Lodge does their work differently.  Just a FYI to all, if a DDGM or GM or someone from the GL is around, do not have the Tyled or unTyled doors open once the Lodge is opened.  Even balloting, the Tyler can not ballot.  That is why in some Lodges guards are placed at the several entrances of the Lodge to see that none leave or enter during the ballot.


Here, all MM present are required to vote.
Same in Ontario. ALL, including the Tyler must vote.
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Originally posted by Noblewiebe Noblewiebe wrote:

Originally posted by fireman99 fireman99 wrote:

Originally posted by CAMB.MASON CAMB.MASON wrote:

 If the door is open, then no Lodge business takes place.  If inside the Lodge room he could participate in Lodge business, but since he is suppose to be outside the door, he can not participate in any business once Lodge has started.  The Lodge room doors are closed if Lodge is in working mode.  No business should take place with a open door.  With this said, each Lodge does their work differently.  Just a FYI to all, if a DDGM or GM or someone from the GL is around, do not have the Tyled or unTyled doors open once the Lodge is opened.  Even balloting, the Tyler can not ballot.  That is why in some Lodges guards are placed at the several entrances of the Lodge to see that none leave or enter during the ballot.


Here, all MM present are required to vote.
Same in Ontario. ALL, including the Tyler must vote.
 
Indeed.  It is also not unheard of for the WM to give a direction to the Tyler to Tyle the outer door, and enter lodge, so he can listen to a presentation or participate in degree work.  He must, of course, be outside at any time he be needed (openings, closings, etc.).
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