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Greetings!   Brother's I've been pretty busy with my job for the last 10 years. But now I'm finally in one place and ready to get back involved with my craft work.
 
How would I go about reinstatement with my old lodge??
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The Lodge Secretary is the person to talk to.


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Originally posted by bdsnook43 bdsnook43 wrote:

If you have already gone through the three degree's, you are likely still considered a member of your lodge. 
 
Is your old lodge still near you?  Likely, you can just go to the Secretary and pay your dues for this year.
 
Regardless, the Lodge Secretary is the person to talk to.
 
It sounds like you have may have been suspended for Non Payment of dues if that is true, the only thing correct in the above post is that you need to contact the Lodge Secretary.   He can give you a petition for reinstatement.  The requirements after that can differ between Jurisdictions.


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There's a whole section in Mackey's Jurisprudence of Freemasonry devoted to reinstatement.  It's a pretty good read, but there are variations from one territory to another.
 
Generally, if you owe past dues and have been suspended for non-payment...you'll most likely have to pay what you owed to get you up to date.  However, some lodges do grand an amnesty for this.
 
If you demitted at the time, you may have to apply to affiliate.  I'm not sure if you can un-demit.  Then again, there's little difference between the two ideas.
 
As was said, the best person to help you is the secretary of your lodge.  I'm sure he's done it before, and it is pretty common for a "rusty brother" to come back to lodge after an absence.
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Thanks Bdsnook43, Yeah I've been in the Blue House since 94 and Royal Arch since 95. My Lodge is in Louisiana!
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Originally posted by Boaz94 Boaz94 wrote:

Thanks Bdsnook43, Yeah I've been in the Blue House since 94 and Royal Arch since 95. My Lodge is in Louisiana!
 
Is your Lodge under the Grand Lodge of Louisiana, If so, I can get you the contact info for your Lodge Secretary.
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I hope you've been making some good money these past 10 years.

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I doubt that.  You'd probably be suspended after a year or two of non-payment.  You would only have to pay those.  You don't pay for the years you are suspended.
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Yes it's under the Grand Lodge of Louisiana. Cornerstone # 229 Lake Charles,La
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Originally posted by maboot38 maboot38 wrote:

I doubt that.  You'd probably be suspended after a year or two of non-payment.  You would only have to pay those.  You don't pay for the years you are suspended.

Oh yeah? This is one of those things I'm sure differs from jurisdiction to jurisdiction.
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Originally posted by masonic.truths masonic.truths wrote:

Originally posted by bdsnook43 bdsnook43 wrote:

If you have already gone through the three degree's, you are likely still considered a member of your lodge. 
 
Is your old lodge still near you?  Likely, you can just go to the Secretary and pay your dues for this year.
 
Regardless, the Lodge Secretary is the person to talk to.
 
It sounds like you have may have been suspended for Non Payment of dues if that is true, the only thing correct in the above post is that you need to contact the Lodge Secretary.   He can give you a petition for reinstatement.  The requirements after that can differ between Jurisdictions.
 
I guess I should have paid more attention.  Ten years is a long time...
 
Here are the rules for Florida.  I assumed you were from a Florida lodge given your profile stating Jacksonville!  But, given you are from LA, I'm sure they could or will be different.
 

Reinstatement, non-payment of dues

(1) General information Chapter 27.

(2) Petition for reinstatement takes same course as petition for degrees. (Reg.27.13)

(3) Favorable vote of 3/4 of members present by ball ballot or secret written ballot. (Reg. 27.13)

(4) May be renewed after three months. (Reg. 27.13)

(5) Per capita due Grand lodge must be paid. (Reg. 27.14)

http://www.glflamason.org/documents/Digest%202010.pdf

REINSTATEMENT

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27.13 A Member suspended for non-payment of dues can be reinstated only after petition has been properly submitted, which shall take the same course as a petition for the Degrees, provided, any such petition which is rejected may be renewed by a new petition after three months from date of such rejection. A favorable vote of three-fourths of the members present by ball ballot or secret written vote shall be necessary to reinstate a member suspended for non-payment of dues.

27.14 In handling a petition for reinstatement for N.P.D., a Lodge may collect or remit all dues, including current dues, or any part thereof, but any per capita due Grand Lodge must be paid to Grand Lodge.



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Originally posted by masonic.truths masonic.truths wrote:

Originally posted by bdsnook43 bdsnook43 wrote:

If you have already gone through the three degree's, you are likely still considered a member of your lodge. 
 
Is your old lodge still near you?  Likely, you can just go to the Secretary and pay your dues for this year.
 
Regardless, the Lodge Secretary is the person to talk to.
 
It sounds like you have may have been suspended for Non Payment of dues if that is true, the only thing correct in the above post is that you need to contact the Lodge Secretary.   He can give you a petition for reinstatement.  The requirements after that can differ between Jurisdictions.
 
That's what happens when someone rushes in without looking ;)
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Originally posted by maboot38 maboot38 wrote:

I doubt that.  You'd probably be suspended after a year or two of non-payment.  You would only have to pay those.  You don't pay for the years you are suspended.

Oh yeah? This is one of those things I'm sure differs from jurisdiction to jurisdiction.
 
Looking at it logically, how can a lodge charge you for membership to an organization to which you are no longer a member.  When you are suspended, your membership is suspended, and therefore it would be unethical to charge dues.  That's how I see it.
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Originally posted by maboot38 maboot38 wrote:

Originally posted by Caution1010 Caution1010 wrote:

Originally posted by maboot38 maboot38 wrote:

I doubt that.  You'd probably be suspended after a year or two of non-payment.  You would only have to pay those.  You don't pay for the years you are suspended.

Oh yeah? This is one of those things I'm sure differs from jurisdiction to jurisdiction.
 
Looking at it logically, how can a lodge charge you for membership to an organization to which you are no longer a member.  When you are suspended, your membership is suspended, and therefore it would be unethical to charge dues.  That's how I see it.

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Originally posted by Boaz94 Boaz94 wrote:

Yes it's under the Grand Lodge of Louisiana. Cornerstone # 229 Lake Charles,La
 
Your Lodge is PHA, so I don't have any info on it.
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Quarryman, Yes it's PHA. Lake Charles Louisiana
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http://www.mwphglla.com/
This is the link to the MWPHGL of LA.  It should have some contact info on it for you get back involved.
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Thanks Brother for looking into this. I'm not sure if the guidlines are the same in Louisiana, but I'm sure it maybe similar.
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You need to get reinstated first in the jurisdiction that you were a member. Once you get back in good standing there you should be able to join a lodge where you are now located. The website for your lodge is http://www.georgewashingtonsr21.com/Cornerstone229.html but there is not a way to contact them that I can find. Your best bet would be to call your GL at 225.387.0996 which is the phone number listed on their site. They would be the best to give you advice on how to get reinstated.
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Originally posted by Caution1010 Caution1010 wrote:

Originally posted by maboot38 maboot38 wrote:

I doubt that.  You'd probably be suspended after a year or two of non-payment.  You would only have to pay those.  You don't pay for the years you are suspended.

Oh yeah? This is one of those things I'm sure differs from jurisdiction to jurisdiction.


It's the same in my jurisdiction.   Only the past due dues. plus current year.  So if the Lodge is on top of suspension that would be one past due + current year ... 2 years ....
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Originally posted by maboot38 maboot38 wrote:

I doubt that.  You'd probably be suspended after a year or two of non-payment.  You would only have to pay those.  You don't pay for the years you are suspended.


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Here's a new one in Mississippi.  If you've been suspended for non-payment of dues for over three years, you have to be re-investigated as you would when petitioning the lodge for the first time.  Is sound satisfactory, your petition for reinstatement will then be voted on.
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Originally posted by 3DistinctKnocks 3DistinctKnocks wrote:

Here's a new one in Mississippi.  If you've been suspended for non-payment of dues for over three years, you have to be re-investigated as you would when petitioning the lodge for the first time.  Is sound satisfactory, your petition for reinstatement will then be voted on.
 
I wonder if this line requires the same here in FL:  "...which shall take the same course as a petition for the Degrees..."
 
Sounds like it, but I'm kinda new to the rules around here.  Wink
 

Quote 27.13 A Member suspended for non-payment of dues can be reinstated only after petition has been properly submitted, which shall take the same course as a petition for the Degrees, provided, any such petition which is rejected may be renewed by a new petition after three months from date of such rejection. A favorable vote of three-fourths of the members present by ball ballot or secret written vote shall be necessary to reinstate a member suspended for non-payment of dues.

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Its a new rule, so I'm not 100% sure on the finer points of the issue. 
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That's how it works with my GL.   I was NPD for 10 years and had to have an investigative committee come to my house after I petitioned for reinstatement.  I ended up paying 2 years' worth of dues after being voted in.
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